• SPOILERS: Alles van The Winds of Winter en seizoen 6 onder spoiler knopjes!

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    A Game of Thrones (1996) / Het Spel der Tronen
    A Clash of Kings (1998) / De Strijd der Koningen
    A Storm of Swords (2000) / Een Storm van Zwaarden: Staal en Sneeuw (1), Bloed en Goud (2)
    A Feast for Crows (2005) / Een Feestmaal voor Kraaien
    A Dance with Dragons (2011) / Een Dans met Draken: Oude Vetes, Nieuwe Strijd (1), Zwaarden tegen Draken (2)

    The Hedge Knight (1998) / De Hagenridder
    The Sworn Sword (2003) / De Eed van Trouw
    The Mystery Knight (2010) / De Onbekende Ridder
    A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms (2015), bovenstaande novelles gecombineerd in één boek

    The Princess and the Queen, or, The Blacks and the Greens (2013), gepubliceerd in Dangerous Women
    The Rogue Prince, or, A King's Brother (2014), gepubliceerd in Rogues

    (The Ice Dragon) (1980), een kinderboek waar discussie over bestaat of het verhaal wel of niet plaatsvindt in dezelfde wereld als ASOIAF
    The Art of George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire (2005), verschillende auteurs
    The Lands of Ice and Fire (2012)
    The World of Ice and Fire (2014)
    A Song of Ice and Fire Coloring Book (2015)

    A World of Ice and Fire, app voor iOS en Android, voor veel informatie moet je echter betalen

    Season 1 (2011)
    Season 2 (2012)
    Season 3 (2013)
    Season 4 (2014)
    Season 5 (2015)

    Inside HBO's Game of Thrones: Seasons 1 & 2 (2012), door Bryan Cogman, GRRM, David Benioff en D.B. Weiss
    Inside HBO's Game of Thrones: Season 3 & 4 (2014), door C.A. Taylor


    Game of Thrones S6, half april 2016

    The Winds of Winter (ASOIAF vol. 6), hopelijk ASAP
    Sample Chapters:

    Game of Thrones S7, verwacht 2017
    The She-Wolves of Winterfell (werktitel) (Dunk & Egg vol. 4), TBA
    A Dream of Spring (voormalig: A Time for Wolves) (ASOIAF vol. 7), TBA maar waarschijnlijk rond 2020
    Fire and Blood (geschiedenis van House Targaryen), delen hiervan zijn al gepubliceerd, zie 'Novelles'. Verwacht na afronding van ASOIAF

    Not a Blog, GRRM's blog
    Interactieve kaart van The Known World, met de reizen die iedereen maakt. Spoiler knopje rechts bovenin.
    A mapped history of A Song of Ice and Fire (met dank aan Maegi)
    A Wiki of Ice and Fire & Game of Thrones Wiki
    A Forum of Ice and Fire, met forums voor zowel de boeken als de tv-serie
    A Search of Ice and Fire, een snelle manier om alle boeken (inclusief de novelles) door te zoeken.


    [ bericht aangepast op 12 maart 2016 - 20:23 ]

    "She was fury, she was wrath, she was vengeance."

    Stiekeme mt. (:
    April is nog ver weg tho..

    Objects in the rear view mirror may appear closer than they are.


    What do we say to the god of death? ''Not today.''


    “The heart is an arrow. It demands to aim true."

    Ik ben éindelijk begonnen met GoT en ik snap echt niet waarom ik dit niet eerder heb gekeken. Ik wilde perse eerst de boeken lezen, maar daar ben ik ook nog steeds niet aan toegekomen.

    You will never know, just how beautiful you are to me.

    Ik weet niet of jullie het al hebben gezien, maar GRRM heeft op zijn blog een heel lange post gezet over dat hij The Winds of Winter duidelijk niet af heeft gekregen voor het nieuwe jaar, en dat het boek waarschijnlijk ook niet af is voordat het nieuwe seizoen van Game of Thrones begint. Ik baal echt als een stekker, en ga het internet vermijden als het nieuwe seizoen begint (ga het dus ook niet kijken). Ik heb geen zin in 'spoilers' die ontzettend verwarrend gaan worden aangezien de serie zo erg afwijkt.

    Edit: Voor wie benieuwd is maar lui:

    The last post from the Lost Post, and the one you've all been waiting for.

    Back when this was one long long long post, before Live Journal sent it to the cornfield, I mentioned opening with Dickens' line, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times." So it was for me in 2015. I've spent much of the day recreating (in Cliff's Note summaries) my own personal "best of times" from the previous year, all the wonderful things that went down for me in 2015, the awards and the publications and the bestseller lists, the cons and the parties, the travel, all the exciting new projects underway at HBO and right here down the street in Santa Fe. But inevitably that brings me to my own personal "worst of times," and that is considerably less fun to blog about, so do forgive my reluctance to do so.

    You wanted an update. Here's the update. You won't like it.

    THE WINDS OF WINTER is not finished.

    Believe me, it gave me no pleasure to type those words. You're disappointed, and you're not alone. My editors and publishers are disappointed, HBO is disappointed, my agents and foreign publishers and translators are disappointed... but no one could possibly be more disappointed than me. For months now I have wanted nothing so much as to be able to say, "I have completed and delivered THE WINDS OF WINTER" on or before the last day of 2015.

    But the book's not done.

    Nor is it likely to be finished tomorrow, or next week. Yes, there's a lot written. Hundreds of pages. Dozens of chapters. (Those 'no pages done' reports were insane, the usual garbage internet journalism that I have learned to despise). But there's also a lot still left to write. I am months away still... and that's if the writing goes well. (Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.) Chapters still to write, of course... but also rewriting. I always do a lot of rewriting, sometimes just polishing, sometimes pretty major restructures.

    I suppose I could just say, "Sorry, boys and girls, still writing," and leave it at that. "It will be done when it's done." Which is what I have been doing, more or less, since... well, forever. But with season 6 of GAME OF THRONES approaching, and so many requests for information boiling up, I am going to break my own rules and say a little more, since it would appear that hundreds of my readers, maybe thousands or tens of thousands, are very concerned about this question of 'spoilers" and the show catching up, revealing things not yet revealed in the books, etc.

    My publishers and I have been cognizant of these concerns, of course. We discussed some of them last spring, as the fifth season of the HBO series was winding down, and came up with a plan. We all wanted book six of A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE to come out before season six of the HBO show aired. Assuming the show would return in early April, that meant THE WINDS OF WINTER had to be published before the end of March, at the latest. For that to happen, my publishers told me, they would need the completed manuscript before the end of October. That seemed very do-able to me... in May. So there was the first deadline: Halloween.

    Unfortunately, the writing did not go as fast or as well as I would have liked. You can blame my travels or my blog posts or the distractions of other projects and the Cocteau and whatever, but maybe all that had an impact... you can blame my age, and maybe that had an impact too...but if truth be told, sometimes the writing goes well and sometimes it doesn't, and that was true for me even when I was in my 20s. And as spring turned to summer, I was having more bad days than good ones. Around about August, I had to face facts: I was not going to be done by Halloween. I cannot tell you how deeply that realization depressed me.

    Early August saw me back east for my nephew's wedding and an appearance with the Staten Island Direwolves. I took advantage of the visit to have another sit down with my editors and publishers and told them that I didn't think I could deliver by Halloween. I thought they'd be sick about it... but I have to say, my editors and publishers are great, and they took it with surprising equanimity. (Maybe they knew it before I did). They already had contigencies in place. They had made plans to speed up production. If I could deliver WINDS OF WINTER by the end of the year, they told me, they could still get it our before the end of March.

    I was immensely relieved. I had two whole extra months! I could make that, certainly. August was an insane month, too much travel, too many other obligations... but I'd have September, October, and now November and December as well. Once again I was confident I could do it.

    Here it is, the first of January. The book is not done, not delivered. No words can change that. I tried, I promise you. I failed. I blew the Halloween deadline, and I've now blown the end of the year deadline. And that almost certainly means that no, THE WINDS OF WINTER will not be published before the sixth season of GAME OF THRONES premieres in April (mid April, we are now told, not early April, but those two weeks will not save me). Even as late as my birthday and our big Emmy win, I still thought I could do it... but the days and weeks flew by faster than the pile of pages grew, and (as I often do) I grew unhappy with some of the choices I'd made and began to revise... and suddenly it was October, and then November... and as the suspicion grew that I would not make it after all, a gloom set in, and I found myself struggling even more. The fewer the days, the greater the stress, and the slower the pace of my writing became.

    Look, I have always had problems with deadlines. For whatever reason, I don't respond well to them. Back in November, when I returned to Northwestern to accept my Alumni Award, I told the Medill students that was why I started writing fiction instead of getting a job on a newspaper. I knew even then that daily deadlines would kill me. That was a joke, of course... but there was truth in it too. I wrote my first novel, DYING OF THE LIGHT, without a contract and without a deadline. No one even knew I was writing a novel until I sent the completed book to Kirby to sell. I wrote FEVRE DREAM the same way. I wrote THE ARMAGEDDON RAG the same way. No contracts, no deadlines, no one waiting. Write at my own pace and deliver when I'm done. That's really how I am most comfortable, even now.

    But I won't make excuses. There are no excuses. No one else is to blame. Not my editors and publishers, not HBO, not David & Dan. It's on me. I tried, and I am still trying. I worked on the book a couple of days ago, revising a Theon chapter and adding some new material, and I will writing on it again tomorrow. But no, I can't tell you when it will be done, or when it will be published. Best guess, based on our previous conversations, is that Bantam (and presumably my British publisher as well) can have the hardcover out within three months of delivery, if their schedules permit. But when delivery will be, I can't say. I am not going to set another deadline for myself to trip over. The deadlines just stress me out.

    I am going back to my stance from last March, before all this. It will be done when it's done. And it will be as good as I can possibly make it.

    Having said all that, I know what the next question will be, because hundreds of you have already asked it of me. Will the show 'spoil' the novels?

    Maybe. Yes and no. Look, I never thought the series could possibly catch up with the books, but it has. The show moved faster than I anticipated and I moved more slowly. There were other factors too, but that was the main one. Given where we are, inevitably, there will be certain plot twists and reveals in season six of GAME OF THRONES that have not yet happened in the books. For years my readers have been ahead of the viewers. This year, for some things, the reverse will be true. How you want to handle that... hey, that's up to you. Look, I read Andy Weir's novel THE MARTIAN before I saw the movie. But I saw the BBC production of JONATHAN STRANGE AND MR NORRELL before I finally got around to reading Susanna Clarke's novel. In both cases, I loved the book and I loved the adaptation. It does not need to be one or the other. You might prefer one over the other, but you can still enjoy the hell out of both.

    Of course, there's an aspect to our situation that did not apply to either the Weir or Clarke cases. Those novels were finished before they were optioned, adapted, and filmed. The case of GAME OF THRONES and A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE is perhaps unique. I can't think of any other instance where the movie or TV show came out as the source material was still being written. So when you ask me, "will the show spoil the books," all I can do is say, "yes and no," and mumble once again about the butterfly effect. Those pretty little butterflies have grown into mighty dragons. Some of the 'spoilers' you may encounter in season six may not be spoilers at all... because the show and the books have diverged, and will continue to do so.


    Just consider. Mago, Irri, Rakharo, Xaro Xhoan Daxos, Pyat Pree, Pyp, Grenn, Ser Barristan Selmy, Queen Selyse, Princess Shireen, Princess Myrcella, Mance Rayder, and King Stannis are all dead in the show, alive in the books. Some of them will die in the books as well, yes... but not all of them, and some may die at different times in different ways. Balon Greyjoy, on the flip side, is dead in the books, alive on the show. His brothers Euron Crow's Eye and Victarion have not yet been introduced (will they appear? I ain't saying). Meanwhile Jhiqui, Aggo, Jhogo, Jeyne Poole, Dalla (and her child) and her sister Val, Princess Arianne Martell, Prince Quentyn Martell, Willas Tyrell, Ser Garlan the Gallant, Lord Wyman Manderly, the Shavepate, the Green Grace, Brown Ben Plumm, the Tattered Prince, Pretty Meris, Bloodbeard, Griff and Young Griff, and many more have never been part of the show, yet remain characters in the books. Several are viewpoint characters, and even those who are not may have significant roles in the story to come in THE WINDS OF WINTER and A DREAM OF SPRING.

    GAME OF THRONES is the most popular television series in the world right now. The most pirated as well. It just won a record number of Emmy Awards, including the ultimate prize, for the best drama on television. It's an incredible production with an incredible cast and crew.

    WINDS OF WINTER should be pretty good too, when it comes out. As good as I can make it, anyway.

    Which is a long way of saying, "How may children did Scarlett O'Hara have?"

    Enjoy the show. Enjoy the books.

    Meanwhile, I'll keep writing. Chapter at a time. Page at a time. Word at a time. That's all I know how to do.

    ((And yes, this is my final Cliff's Note for the day. You can all go to bed now)).

    [ bericht aangepast op 6 jan 2016 - 16:32 ]

    "She was fury, she was wrath, she was vengeance."

    BB8 schreef:

    but do you feel held by him? — does he feel like home to you? ( Anatomy » Midsommar )

    Oh, ik heb met kerst de boeken gekregen. Maar ik heb eerlijk gezegd nog niet zoveel zin om erin te beginnen want ik weet dat het me een eeuw gaat duren voor ik dan helemaal bij ben. :'D
    Ik denk dat ik pas ga beginnen als de serie afgelopen is.

    KyloRen schreef:
    Oh, ik heb met kerst de boeken gekregen. Maar ik heb eerlijk gezegd nog niet zoveel zin om erin te beginnen want ik weet dat het me een eeuw gaat duren voor ik dan helemaal bij ben. :'D
    Ik denk dat ik pas ga beginnen als de serie afgelopen is.

    Misschien wel verstandig ja. De boeken zijn nog tien keer beter dan de serie, maar zo word je ook niet teleurgesteld. :c

    "She was fury, she was wrath, she was vengeance."

    Ik vind het ergens wel jammer dat het boek niet "op tijd" af is, maar aan de andere kant is dit beter dan dat George het helemaal gaat afraffelen. Ik ben blij dat ie dat niet gedaan heeft, wat sommige schrijvers wel gedaan zouden hebben.

    Normaal is het gemiddelde van alle afwijkingen

    Trailer van S6:

    Voor de liefhebbers. ^^ Graag wel alles van het komende seizoen onder spoiler knopjes, dit nog eens extra omdat er nu dus content in voor kan komen dat de boeken kan spoilen.

    "She was fury, she was wrath, she was vengeance."

    is dat die op facebook stond? Daar was de muziek zo gek bij..

    [ bericht aangepast op 12 maart 2016 - 21:14 ]

    Objects in the rear view mirror may appear closer than they are.

    Officiële trailer:

    I'm soooo excited. ;3

    [ bericht aangepast op 12 maart 2016 - 21:07 ]

    What do we say to the god of death? ''Not today.''

    Ah thanks! Ik had op youtube gekeken en die ene stond bovenaan, niet zelf gekeken. x)

    "She was fury, she was wrath, she was vengeance."

    Val schreef:
    Ah thanks! Ik had op youtube gekeken en die ene stond bovenaan, niet zelf gekeken. x)

    Haha, geeft niks. Ze hadden echt super veel van die teasers gedropt.

    What do we say to the god of death? ''Not today.''

    Hoooi, ik had en vraagje. Waar kijken jullie Game of Thrones op?

    "I would have followed you, my brother... my captain... my king."